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Spaces vs. Tags

Feature Requests

Currently: Everything is just considered a space. Spaces currently act as buckets to place your annotations in.

Idealy: It would be EXTREMELY helpful if...
Spaces - Work like a folder (just like they do now). With the added ability to have at minimum one sub-level and a way to drag to reorganize them in the dashboard.
Tags - Added to make it easier to filter annotations down within each space. Currently, I am doing this by adding hashtags to my annotations, but it would be nice if Memex's UI supported this natively so that the annotations appeared less cluttered and offered it as an added search filter option.

Posted by Anonymous User ·
Status: 🎉 Shipped3 comments

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  • Georg Vogt

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    Jun 28, 2024

    The beauty of tags is that they are "flat". All are on the same level. The combination makes it. Nested or not spaces do not deliver this as they are always a hierarchy and it would only work if my ability to mark would be perfectly MECE. This is not going to happen.

    Moreover, as soon as sharing comes in this entire thing falls apart. as I am randomly adding other spaces, I will not be sure to know who receives what.

    Tags just need one relational table. Not offering it appears to be partly ideological.


    Raindrop nails the combination of folders and tags However, Memex is not fully supportive of PDF and good note taking...what to do.

  • Oliver Sauter

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    Oct 4, 2023

    Hey there,

    Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

    Agreed, Spaces could be way better to organise.
    We are currently planning how we do the Spaces with nesting/subclustering that would enable better organisation.

    Curious to learn more about what you think when I made the first UI drafts.

    On the filtering side:
    Just add the annotation to the Spaces you want to use as "tags" with the + icon in each card. Then you can use the filters in the search interface to drill down on those.
    Does that work for your use case?

    Adding the Spaces to a note (that also works in the sidebar when being on the page)

    Filtering by other Spaces

    • Anonymous User

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      Oct 4, 2023

      I am not noticing anything different in the screenshots you shared, compared to what what currently exists today in the beta. Can you explain the differences further?

      What you have now is a good running start, but to truly feel any sense of productivity I (and I am sure many others) could use more than a single hierarchy.

      For my current use case I REALLY need possibly like this.

      Otherwise, there would just be a massive list of completely unorganized spaces. A PRIME example of this would be:
      I am trying to use Memex to highlight snippets of different example contracts and agreements I need to run my business. In the current workflow, if I were to tag each highlight with multiple spaces I would have well over 30+ spaces dedicated to just that project. For example:


      Contract Type

      #c&d (cease & desist) #sweepstakes. #nda. #terms #service. #web #statement of work #hosting. #privacy. #billing. #proof. #change. #employee. #content. #careplan. #photography

      Section

      #scope #approval #term #cancellation #changes #timeline #handoff #dormancy #indemnity #warranty #authority #entities #governing law

      This will result in 30+ terms that are only related to that particular project cluttering up the UI. Which in turn has to be avoided through every time I want to annotate/search for something else for another project.

      Memex's current search field input that is available when interacting with any of the spaces, and the ability to layer multiple Space filters together definitely makes this much easier to manage. However, for a tool like Memex, the flow of the user experience is typically meant for someone who is researching one particular project at a time. Using a 'Space' as a research bucket/project area that you can quickly dump your ideas into and additional tags that are owned by the space to specifically filter things down pertaining to the exact task you are currently focused on feels far more natural than sifting through a giant bucket of completely unrelated tags/spaces.

      For another example, I would use memex to take notes on Digital Painting videos and could use the following tags:

      #photoshop #illustrator #procreate #flatting #shading #inking #sfx

      I don't want each of these to be individual Spaces because the tools you would use to do shading in Photoshop are different in Illustrator, but many times the overall shading principles apply to digital painting as a whole. Depending on the task I could open up the Digital printing Space and use the search filters to know more about the overall principle or I might want to drill down to know more on how to specifically apply that principle in the program I am currently working in.

      The chrome extension Toby could also be a different example. They have a hierarchy of workspace (organization) > Spaces > collapsible collections > Tags


      In Summary: the ability to quickly create/choose from a small list of tags (child spaces) that are only related to a single project space (parent space) without having to filter every available term.

      I hope those examples help. I am happy to answer any additional questions or even hop on a chat. I have been a long-time follower of Memex and out of all the tools out there I really see the potential of Memex being the leader in this space. I'm here to support with any feedback on your journey there.